number, and i think he is losing people to elizabeth warren. i saw smkd on twitter go i'm a bernie guy and liked the town halls but after i heard elizabeth warren say why it was a bad idea i'm for her. i think it's interesting. i think we all kind of thought the democrats are going to elect their trump, somehow the democrats were going to repeat the sort of behavior, the dynamic the republicans had on their side four years ago. that's never what happens. we saw bernie as that person but he seems to be slipping. >> you've obviously worked with bernie over the years. i think he's going to slip dramatically. is he going to stick around, though? >> i think he will. i was very critical of him last time. look, he was not an effective senator. part of his problem is elizabeth warren got more done in public policy for the left as a citizen than bernie's done as a senator. he's an advocate out there by himself. and in 2016 the anger that produced trump, the unfair criticism for hillary, that gave