care, that those laws have to come before my department of justice for a review and approval. and until we determine that they are constitutional, they will not take effect. >> that sounds like it means 60 votes in the united states senate? >> you know what, everything that we need to do is going to require 60 votes in the united states senate. which is why i say, everybody, 2020 is about the white house, it's also about the united states senate. >> joining from us the location of that town hall, nbc correspondent ron hilliard for us. ron, good morning. thanks for joining us. senator kamala harris, during the msnbc town hall last night as we just heard, hitting on a number of topics, what do you think and what are you hearing was her standout moment last night? >> reporter: yeah, good morning, as you just played, that was her big policy push that she focused on last night. this is a methodical campaign by kamala harris, as she's going through, is this now her fourth

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