facts and a certain gar illousness but come binds with gentility and geniality. i don't know the vice president has that skillset for this election and these 12 debates. i defer to neara who individuals democrats but i was a panelist at four debates for republicans and president trump had training as a reality tv star to win those debates. i don't know that the vice president is really ready for standing on a stage with nine other people and being treated as one of 20. >> the actual -- >> weigh in there. >> the actual fact here is that joe biden i think one of the reasons why he's doing well is because he's actually been in a national debate. he did -- he did debate paul ryan who everyone thought would be some incredible debater and he did very well. he's been in multiple national debates. i totally hear the point that he has to get specific on issues and i think that is really important. he took on the issue of climate.
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