like biden probably has to fight it out with beto for the moderate votes. >> i think the one that inspires that he or she can unite this country is going to be the candidate the democrats fall behind. it might even be one of the dand candidates traditionally thought of as more left. this is a bunch of candidates and a bunch of skilled people and a bunch of good leaders here. we got donald trump waiting to unite us. that's a big uniting force. i think whoever survives this process is going to be inspirational and appeal across the spectrum. >> do you think the democrats -- i've generally voted democrat, not always. do you think you can run two white guys? is that over with, a monochromatic ticket, all one gender.