the sentence would be really a bridge too far, even for this president. the reaction in congress i think would be one of abhorrence and repugnance. there would be action, although the pardon power is broad. it's not unlimited. if it is misused for obstruction of justice and clearly a pardon for manafort would be to reward not only noncooperation but also witness tampering, confidential discussions with the white house after his conviction. potential destruction of documents, in effect, contempt for the rule of law and a feeling as many in the white house and the curtain principle outcome that the the normal rules don't apply. so i think any pardon for manafort would trigger a firestorm. >> pardon all kinds of dirt on him.