two judges appointed by republicans who come at it a different way. i agree with the sirica approach but in fairness judge ellis is not really viewing this as his job to break open the case. >> do you think he's being partisan, straight up partisanship on his part? for trump, didn't want to put somebody away for having helped him? >> i don't think that's right. i think it's a philosophical view on how he uses sentencing. judge sirica had a different view. his view was a big sentence that will break the case open and that's what it did. >> yeah. one of the challenges people have with what he did and we'll move off of this, is that the cooperator, michael cohen, different judge, mind you, is getting three years. the non-cooperate ter gets one more year than him with time served they could serve the same amount of time. as a matter of law as a matter of advancing the cause of justice, this seemed like a