people is illegal in any circumstance. but you can take any amount of money from anyone as long as they're not a foreign national. is that basically the rules of the road? >> that's right. if they're a u.s. -- a u.s. citizen or a u.s.-based company, it's fair game. >> and we already also know that at least one foreign individual had a straw purchaser to come to the inauguration, right? >> yes. so rick gaetz, who was deputy chairman of the inaugural, who, of course, worked with paul manafort on the campaign and before that in ukraine, another one of their associates, a guy by the name of sam patton used a straw donor to donate $50,000 on behalf of a ukrainian oligarch. >> so there's just one example, but that's the one that's been pinned down, and we do know that rick gaetz is cooperating with federal investigators and the mueller team, correct? >> right. >> caleb melby, thanks for being with me tonight. >> thanks for having me. the dnc has had it with fox news, today announcing the network is barred from hosting any democratic debates. dnc chair tom perez on the tipping point, next.
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