necessary hi there the way this you're also beginning to see a greater european debate about taking matters into their own hands, not being as dependentin the united states and particular will to china lengsly saying we have to navigate without such a close atlantic relationship. that's the sense of history now, that the atlantic era of history is essentially consigned to history. we're not quite sure what comes next but something different is coming. >> and, mika, of course that is the worst case scenario. it is remarkable, though, how much you see change when administrations change. remember during the gulf war and gerhard schroeder and chirac,