i'm glad to see that the people of venezuela are rising up and there was a protest just the other day that had more than 200,000 people there. but what happens in venezuela has to be determined by the venezuelans, not by the united states. what maduro was doing, essentially jailing political opponents, having a sham election, essentially cradling the economy there, people losing 15, 20 pounds, people starving, that's wrong. so i'm glad to see change there. but that change has to be led by the venezuelans, not, i don't think, by the united states. oftentimes if we push too hard, we actually get a response back from the people in those countries that counteracts what we would want in those countries. >> julian castro, thank you so much for a substantive interview, sir. on a lighter note i was pleased to learn that you and your brother saw the last "star wars"