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whatever happens tomorrow, which at this point really could be anything although i have been hearing slightly more optimism that at least with the senate votes, though those are doomed to fail, it appears that could provide some type of forward-moving momentum here to get the gears of government at least somewhat grinding again. >> anita, jeremy just used the o word for optimism. are you hearing any of that being shared? especially the subset of that question is republican defections. who's had enough? >> yeah. i mean, it's been going on for quite some time, right? so you'd think that both sides would have enough. i mean, every paycheck i think that goes by that people aren't getting and messages like you heard before about safety, i think that it's going to get there. but they're -- both sides are just really dug in on this. you mentioned the state of the

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