first thing i like to say about the american flag, i don't salute the american flag, two of the states stand for alaska and hawaii, i stand for my own flag, the banner of the white race. >> with me is chris picciolini, the director of the northern hammer skin heads. i believe we are warriors today and fighting for a great cause, which is the white race. >> it's painful to admit, but that the me, 22 years ago. today, i see the world very differently. >> joining us now christian picciolini, he is the cofounder of life after hate. >> hello, this is christian. tell me what is going on, man. >> for more than a decade, i maze it my -- i made it my mission to help people disengage from hate groups. does he talk about using weapons? there's a resistant to work with