counsel's office is corroborated by other evidence. >> that's right. >> that is what they stated in conjunction or in support of cohen's guilty plea to lying to congress about this matter. i will say one of the main questions, the most potent questions i think about this buzz feed reporting today has been -- well, if mueller has this evidence that cohen was directed to lie when he lied to congress, why wasn't that charged or otherwise indicated in court that day in november when cohen was there pleading guilty to lying to congress. would you expect if the special counsel's office did have the kind of information that buzzfeed says they have, that somebody directed cohen to do this? would you expect that to have turned up in the charging documents that day in court when cohen pled? >> no, not necessarily. because you want to keep some of your powder dry. laying the predicate, as you said earlier, is precisely i think what the mueller team is