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to conflate them with the 12 million people living here is an incitement that is pretty ugly. we've heard that. >> it's a slightly different list of crimes that evolves over times. >> it updates. there are new crimes. >> but it is, you know, this office of immigrant crime stuff he has been trying to sell from the very beginning. the fact is, we've said it before we'll say it again, native-born americans commit crimes at a higher rate than non-native-born immigrants. >> all crimes. driving infractions. all crimes. >> it is a demagogic old saw to try to pick out horrific things you're trying to attribute to one minority group, particularly one powerless minority group in order to turn the majority against them. the president is singing that same song. it is exactly the same scripts. >> i felt like i was in cleveland. i remember watching that litany in cleveland and being somewhat horrified and shocked this is what was being delivered. to niccole's point here.

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