jerry brown's climate efforts have been profoundly important. it's a measure of the breadth of the crisis but they haven't been nearly enough. it's very complimentary but not nearly enough. is that how you feel as you leave the governorship, you've done everything you can but it still wasn't number or was there something else you could have done? >> not enough and not even close and we're doing more than anybody else, and not close in america or the rest world. look, we've got to get those zero emission cars on the road. we have to figure out new ways of making cement. we've got to clean up our ships, which are creating more pollution than california and texas put together. the technology, the investment, the lifestyle changes, the land use changes. this is a revolutionary threat, and we've got to get off this idea. it's the economy, stupid. no, it's the environment. it's the ecology that we have to get on the side of, and we only do that with wisdom, with investment and widespread
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