>> you mentioned mitch mcconnell. jay, if the house and senate agrees to a deal that does not include border wall funding, who among republicans can convince the president to sign it? >> that remains to be seen. he doesn't have a lot of people who can sway him when he's dug in on an issue. kellyanne conway said this morning she believed the president would veto any bill that came to him that did not include sufficient border wall funding. so he remains committed to that idea, vetoing anything that doesn't include the right amount of funding which means we really are at an impasse. it's hard to imagine how we get out of this frankly because it is really popular with the president's base. he is really committed to this. he really wants this win. democrats are really entrenched to say, no, we are not going to give you this money and we are not going to give you that win. that really appeases their base. i think it's going to be a hard thing to get out of and figure out how to open up the government. >> we are at an impasse indeed. i want to thank our pam and we
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