security. doesn't specify a wall. do you think security will play the same with this base? >> if ann coulter and rush limbaugh are any indication no. they are saying you need to build this wall. it is what you promised, what you have said all along. even though experts always said it would make no sense to build a wall, it was much better enforced through a variety of different measures. that's the compromise democrats and republicans are talking about, redirecting the money to go into other border security efforts that make much more common cents. but is that something the base is going to accept and still say this is a victory for the president. >> jay, and bob, and abigail, thank you very much for this conversation. i appreciate it. right now on deck we have democratic congressman ted lieu of california. he of course a emin of both the