federal government and you're used to lying and you're used to having people around you lie. now we see all the people around him in his outer circle, his midcircle and now his inner circle, all of those lies are catching up to them and they're actually being held accountable. pretty soon the president will have to be accountable. >> we'll delve into a lot more of that inner circle in just a moment. ken, let me get your thoughts about the information prosecutors want to get or are getting from rick gates, s somebody who was at one point part of that inner circle and trump world. >> i covered the paul manafort trial. during that trial he testified that he had potentially misspent money from the inaugural committee. i remember that made news at the time. the associated press did a pretty detailed investigation looking at how that committee spent more than twice as much as the barack obama inaugural, but had really the same number of parties. so there's always been a question about where did the money go. then on the fund-raising side, there were examples of people
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