families seeking asylum did not take a step forward on our ground. it really takes a moment for us as americans to try to reconcile what we're witnessing because we are the moral authority when it comes to refugees and asylum. and that picture that is now circulating around the world all of a sudden jeopardizes not just ethnic minorities in this country, people seeking asylum here but their ethnic minorities are vulnerable and up for option, and that is incredibly frightening, lawrence. >> ron klain, there's a simple wuestion which only democrats in congress next year can find the answer, and that is who gave the order. the secretary of homeland security doesn't mention the use of tear gas and no one down the line in the trump administration will even mention the use of tear gas. >> lawrence, that's right and it is an important question. but in some ways it's buried inside the bigger question, which is no matter who gave the order donald trump created the