president. maybe that's a good reason to run. >> don't run if you don't want to win. because what happens if you do? i'm convinced that bernie didn't necessarily run to win until all of a sudden he could and he wasn't ready to run to win. the team was, but he wasn't. >> do i think he wins? probably no. but if it's him and the fire's there, go for it. >> if he doesn't run? what is his next move? >> the folks who have said he should run in 2020 against john cornyn aren't looking at how unpopular ted cruz is in that state and how that was his shot at winning a senate seat for sure. >> as a native texan here, beto overperformed like you would not believe. and to me there is a potential path for him. the question is can he sustain that enthusiasm and the phenomenon over a three-year period? he caught lightning in a bolt for one year. can you extend that? that's the toughest. >> he ran against the advice of everybody conventionally.