history since watergate, since these things came to light of the department and the white house being very cautious about what the nature and scope of the interactions between the two organizations is and how that's regulated. especially when you've got an investigation going on that touches the white house. >> as a regulated matter, and i'm not asking you to comment on the trump administration specifically, i know you're constrained from being able to do that here. but as a matter that you say is regulated now in terms of contacts between the white house and the justice department, if there were violations on that, if there were somebody at a high level in the justice department who was having secret communications with the white house about an investigation that involved the white house, that would be against justice department rules. that's the sort of thing that you would expect the inspector general to look into if there were credible allegations of that. >> just speaking hypothetically and generically? >> yes. >> potentially, yes. the i.g. could look at that. the ig has a broad scope of authority and could look at that. >> james baker, former general counsel of the fbi. again, a man who does not do introduce like this. i really appreciate you making time to be here and talking to us about this piece. thank you very much. >> thank you, rachel.