this appointment? >> it's a conflict of interest, and he should be required to recuse from overseeing the russia investigation. in fact, i suspect that the ethics professionals that attorneys in the justice department go to for advice on ethical matters will advise him he must recuse. he has if not an actual conflict, certainly the appearance of a conflict, which is the standard that people in doj use. and, john, it's really important to note that the doj conflict standards require lawyers to recuse if they have a personal or political relationship with someone who is interested in the outcome of a case or someone who is involved in a case. and whitaker has got both. he has a personal relationship, a political relationship with sam clovis whose campaign he ran. certainly he appears to have a political relationship with the president who has an interest in the outcome of this investigation. so in no way, shape or form should he remain in the case,