she's a forbiddable candidate. she's up for reelection. >> it almost sounded like a donna brazile endorsement. >> i love them all. >> let me put the poll out. this is a poll -- this is a cnn poll. you had to work that in, didn't you? joe biden top of the pack. top of the heap. 33%. bernie sanders 13%. you can see the rest of them. elizabeth warren polling in fourth according to cnn, this is who democrats prefer. what do we make of the poll? is vice president biden the man to beat? >> i think. so far this is a name recognition indicator more than anything else. it's who people know and who people are familiar with. i don't put much stock in this kind of poll. we all know the only poll that matters is election day. >> perhaps you saw the interview last night on 60 minutes. president trump spending time