it looks likely, i think, that that will be more alive among democrats right now than among republicans. it certainly would be among republicans if he gets rejected. i think it will be a rallying cry and i think it will bring more people out. >> how do you keep it alive? after -- yes, after anita hill, there was the year of the woman. we saw some women get elected to congress. it's still a white male pa patriarchy here. >> i'm talking a matter of weeks. i'm not talking like getting rid of the patriarchy. >> it's hard to stay angry if your side is winning. and if they get kavanaugh in, the anger on the right is not going to be as strong as the anger on the left. the anger on the left is really strong. >> what do you think the impact is of sort of treating -- i talked -- i watched on thursday with brian williams and talked about the human carnage. my reaction as a human being was to sit there and watch these two human beings with family members