susan collins, jeff flake and lisa murkowski. >> we're such a close student of it. what do you think moved flake? >> honestly, a couple of things. i think the moment in the elevator is something that likely stuck with him. i talked to him late last night as he was leaving the capitol after this. he looked visibly pained. i mean he was under so much pressure, i think he was being honest when he said that he didn't feel doubt or certainty. sometimes we miss in this process that frankly all the people who are trying to work up here, they're people too. yes, they are politicians, but they're also people. and we don't have the tape turned yet. but ben sasse just told my colleague leigh ann caldwell that part of why this worked out today is because it was senators in a room, not cameras. and quite frankly, flake relied on a long-time friendship he had with chris coons. there was a relationship of trust. >> right. >> and ari, that trust has been completely broken by the tribal nature of our politics. >> kasie hunt on the scene, and
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