that -- >> you think he should come clean? >> i do. >> i think my opinion differs from some in the white house. but the american people are very forgiving, i think the president could surprise everyone, and speak directly to the american people about what went down. and then as rich lowry suggested in an open ed this wycheek, dispatch his lawyers to go out and make the right deal with the election commission, to pay the fine that would come of it. >> pay big money back. >> you don't really worry about long term or jeopardizing the office of the presidency for limb, if he were to just come clean and state the reasons which rich knew about. he said, look, folks, if he admits it, i was embarrassed, i didn't want to hurt my wife. the american public has been very forgiving in the past. i don't agree with rich all the time, i think he was spot on here. it caused a bit of a ruffle in