independently confirming, but the journ"journal" reporting th allen weisselberg was also granted immunity by these prosecutors. what does that tell you, chuck? >> well, it tells me that they are either interested in what these two gentlemen had to say. pecker and weisselberg. at least about cohen. and perhaps about others. it is clear from the criminal information to which mr. cohen pled that members of the trump organization were deeply involved in criminal activity. prosecutors obviously decided that what weisselberg did and what pecker did didn't wriz ris level where they wanted to prosecute him, but they did have information that was helpful and damning. so here we are, fascinating development. i don't know that it means anything for the president necessarily, but clearly they knew of wrongdoing and they participated and they needed immunity in order to tell their story. >> chuck, i'll ask you to stay
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