the president and perhaps what we were just talking about why this needs to go away before it comes to a conclusion about collusion. >> especially when we remember that nunes knows things that we don't know because he was privy to all kinds of top-secret information when he was overseeing the congressional investigation of the russian matters. or the fact that with this interesting information that, you know, he knows and mueller knows, he's saying, a, collusion is a crime, and b, he thinks that the president is in danger of being removed from office if objective fact finders get to look at it. that suggests that he thinks that trump is in trouble when the truth comes out. >> very good point. >> chuck, it makes it more devastating that he says all this goes away if we don't protect it. he actually in this recording acknowledges that trump may have committed crimes, that it may be a criminal act to have coordinated and colluded with the russians. i'm assuming portuguese is whatever, fund raidser code for russians. he's calling that kind of criminal. but in the same remarks talks about how it is imperative, the most important strategic imperative for republicans is to