chuck's belief or thesis that rosenstein would sign off on a subpoena for the president. >> i do. what the deputy attorney general has been doing is following the rule of law and the guidelines of the department of justice. so it is an unsettled issue with regard to the supreme court whether the president could be forced to testify in a criminal case. but if trump is subpoenaed by the president -- i'm sorry, if trump is subpoenaed by mueller, i think that rosenstein would enforce that subpoena. you know, giuliani says that he's concerned about >> perjury trap. well, a, as chuck said, the way to get around that is for the client, in this case the president, to tell the truth. what mueller wants to ask is questions, say, with regard to flynn. mr. president, when you told mueller to go easy -- >> comey. >> when you told comey to go easy on comey, did you know that flynn had lied about his contacts with the russians? and if he did, that's not a

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