to be hard to avoid any kind of question involving the collusion issue when the president is basically saying they knew what they were doing when they went into that trump tower meeting. >> you have focused a lot on the subpoena, specter of a subpoena here, as all of this continues. and you've talked to a number of legal experts, i know, who have weighed in on this, told you with some surprise. it's curious to them that robert mueller hasn't pursued a subpoena yet. help me understand their thinking, why it seems so unorthodox to them, at least, that robert mueller hasn't done this, as this conversation about an interview continues. >> well, if robert mueller wanted to talk to the president, if he decides that that is a critical part of his investigation, it's important to use legal tools to get to that result. and a subpoena would take a while. you're going to almost definitely have a court battle. you could see a battle go all the way up to the supreme court. and there's been some reporting that if he's going to issue a report on obstruction, he wants to do that on the sooner side.
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