this, they said, that's not really our role here, the president does what he wants to do, this is his megaphone, no one's going to take it away from him. >> you can see that if you take the white house posture at the beginning of the mueller investigation, it was very much, we want to do everything we can to avoid a subpoena fight. that's not where the president wants to be. i think you've heard giuliani say publicly now that we're not really concerned about an indictment, we think this is ultimately a political question. so they're fighting a political fight. if they can take this sort of complicated story and make it, there's a witch hunt, bob mueller is out to get the president, him and his team of democrats, and now he wants to infringe on the power of the president, if he can make those talking points stick, then, you know, he can maybe win some
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