to want payment. that military recovery program that we had with them before demanded payment. we've had $22 million paid to the north koreans for 627 remains since 1990. so they use this for foreign exchange. they also like the contact with the american military, the north korean military. so it has some good aspects, what's happened. >> well, ambassador, the other issues, of course, are denuclearization. secretary pompeo had to agree, under intense questioning from republicans as well as democrats, that the north koreans are still enriching uranium and plutonium for weapons grade fuel. >> that's right. he admitted, the secretary of state, who has been negotiating with north koreans i think quite well, that they are producing more nuclear fuel. on the other hand, they have blown up a missile site. but it's been unverified, they
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