but let me make it very clear, ari, the fact that this white house required people like mike mcfaul and mr. browder to have to worry whether or not they would be served up on a silver platter to mr. putin by the president of the united states is despicable. >> i think it's well put. and it's one of the many things that the white house may be trying to run from tonight with the other moves it's making which are obviously newsworthy, the invite to the white house for putin, and yet was a remarkable piece of state craft over these last few days that it was even, as you say, put out there. ambassador ginsburg, my thanks to you. and senator, who comes on this show, but likes a lot of other shows. sam seder, thank you as well. bob mueller's key items that reveal his trial strategy.