country. we're a 51-49 senate. if he wants to throw an extreme conservative who basically says i'm not going to follow precedence, these laws, then yes, that to me is a major change and something the president should be sitting down with moderates on that advice and consent and say what would be good for america. >> but the reality is i think we know where this is headed on a partisan scale considering he's only looking at nominees prevetted. so we know he's going to pick a conservative. so i ask you, how do democrats then -- can you defeat this nominee if it comes from that -- are you hoping to woo senators murkowski and collins? is that the plan here? >> the plan is to speak out about the change in balance in the court. you are not just voting as was with neil gorsuch for one more name you know that justice

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