>> maximum pressure over? >> it's going to remain what it is now. i don't want to use the term maximum pressure anymore because i don't want to use that term because we're getting along. you see the relationship. so it's not a question of maximum pressure. it's staying essentially the way it is. at some point hopefully a deal for the good of millions of people, a deal will be worked out. well, what's going to happen is south korea will do that. no, i don't think the united states is going to have to spend. i think south korea will do it. i think china, i think frankly china will help out. i think that japan will help out. no, i don't see the united states spending a lot of money. you know, we have three hostages. how much money did i spend for the hostages? >> tom, how much money did he spend for the hostages? >> well, in what it cost us in terms of prestige and diplomacy and process, it was pretty expensive. one of the things that this proved is that hostage taking works. the north koreans have really
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