at all giuliani tells nbc news. the president is concentrating on north korea and we're concentrating on the case and we have a good division of responsibility. so rudy giuliani is not working on north korea, the good news, jennifer. >> yes. although he did make statements and the state department had to disown him and say he doesn't speak on north korea for us. so even that he screwed up. the difference between rudy giuliani then and now, i went back and talked to a slew of assistant u.s. attorneys who worked with him at the time and some defense attorneys as well, although he did delegate some cases he tried some of the most high profile ones, probably because he wanted the attention, but he was very good in the courtroom, that was a long time ago. since then he's become an attention hound, ran for president unsuccessfully, he