not even on background but they say it openly on the record. they accept this premise that really the president is a criminal, that michael cohen has something to give that would implicate donald trump in criminal wrongdoing. if my -- you never hear from them, well, it's really unfortunate for michael cohen that he's in this situation but i don't think the president did anything wrong so he shouldn't have any worry. if my personal lawyer's office was raided, i would be very concerned for him but i wouldn't be worried about it for myself because i'm confident i didn't do anything wrong, i wouldn't worry about an investigation coming to me. i think you can take a couple things away from it, but maybe the most important thing is, i think a lot of people in donald trump's orbit who work for him in government are kind of new to him. i know what happened during the campaign, they had kind of seen what happened in office, they may have some concerns about the russia investigation. but what happened before he joined -- before he ran in this campaign is a big black box to everyone in government. they have no idea what his business was like and they certainly have no idea was michael cohen was doing on his