how clear is that call that he's made there, we need to take a close look at the way law infers has been regarded? >> we definitely have to take a look at how trump is damaging the image, but also the respect of law enforcement. it's funny that president trump said that james comey is the worst fbi director? i would argue that j. edgar hoover, programs might be in competition for worst fbi director, among americans, i think michael can agree with that. >> i agree. >> there's agreement here. >> i think president trump -- his impacting the norms and -- of our democratic institution is going to have long-term consequences. they're going to be negative consequences well beyond donald trump. i agree with michael, let's just end it on a point of agreement. i agree with michael that republicans have completely and indicated their moral leadership and they will be held