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i was with barry levinson last week. he is the director of a film where a president in fiction decided to start a little war to cover up for hanky-panky. >> i think that's a lot of -- a very serious charge to make against a president. but i do think -- >> it's a question to raise when you have john bolton sitting next to him. >> and that particular president. >> in a situation where the president is embattled on all fronts, which you could see. to turn the sound off and watch the president in that very peculiar conversation. and he looked like he did when he did the fire and fury thing with north korea where he is crossing his arms. he looks very defensive. he looks embattled. it's with that mind-set that he goes into the meeting on syria. >> even on reagan, jonathan, i remember reagan i thought he started that action to cover up for beirut and the loss for the marine lives. it isn't so far-fetched, is it? >> i don't know if it's far-fetched. -- >> it's an awful charge. >> it's a very serious charge. >> i think with this president, if you can imagine it, it can

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