litman. the last thing that sam nunberg was saying was he was worried about what michael cohen is going to say when he's called in by somebody like andrew weissman about the payouts. that sounds like he's talking about the stormy daniels payout to not say anything about her sexual relationship with donald trump and possibly other payouts, and there's been speculation that robert mueller would be interested in that. what's your reading of that? >> why wouldn't he be. there does seem to be a series of them. sam nunberg is kind of a charming rogue here and he's on record saying it's a den of thieves, everybody lies about everything, but cohen obviously everything he has said about stormy daniels and others has had a fishy smell to high heaven. and he's going to be very hard