the truth. that's problematic. with this president, he seems teflon when it comes to those kinds of risks. i wouldn't be surprised if he's willing to take that risk. >> i guess if he says he can shoot somebody on fifth avenue, i can take the fifth. robert mueller and his investigators have been thorough in their investigation as "the washington post" reported. "people who appeared before mueller's team say prosecutors have detailed accounts of events sometimes to the minnesota and have surprise witnesses by showing them e-mails or documents they were unaware the team had or their colleagues had written." the prospect trump would be outmatched by the prosecutor would be why his defenders are warning him not to cooperate. >> under no circumstances should he grant mr. mueller an interview. it's a suicide mission. it's a very clear perjury trap. >> if you ask me, don't do it. i don't care what format, i don't care what circumstances. don't do it.