places, which is a weird thing to say about a wall. but i think he is -- he has a part of him who when he's in the room with chuck and nancy or dianne feinstein, he isn't as closed off to some of these compromises as his aides are. and so i think if they stay -- if people like steven miller stay out of that room, it may be a good thing for the country. if he gets near the oval, we are bleeped. >> that's nicole walls. watch "deadline white house" today at 4:00 eastern time here on msnbc. i want to get back to jeff bennett at the white house where the president is meet with chuck schumer. i understand you have new information as that meeting continues to unfold at the white house. >> yeah, we have more information about how this meeting came together. a source tells us earlier this morning, mark short, the white house legislative director, along with mick mulvaney, the budget director, were talking amongst themselves about next steps and they decided that president trump should reach out