country, mike pence, how do you not come out and immediately condemn this? not three days later after you talked through it. but immediately condemn this language? how do you not do that? let's focus on paul ryan and mitch mcconnell, how do they do that? >> i will say, joe, to your initial comment about this, this is the kind of thing your grandfather says when he's old and losing it in front of the television. that's true if your grandfather is a racist, it's not eb's grandfather that talks like that to the television. only those who don't like brown skinned people. >> i certainly did not mean that to mean everybody. hold on. >> i know you didn't. >> my grandfather was just fine. let me just say, eb knows that granddad and grandmom and people with early onset of demensia i know this, say things that they