there. >> joining me now, russian american journalist, a writer at salon. ben hopkins, and malcolm nance, msnbc terrorism analyst. also author of "the plot to hack america, how putin's cyberspies and wikileaks tried to steal the 2016 election." i'm going to go to you first, malcolm, as you heard jeff sessions. is he right? is this so complex that the u.s. is barely scratching the surface of this meddling? >> no, the issue is not complex at all. the issue is that social media has been weaponized in order to influence entire electorates by foreign actors. we got more than enough warning by the central intelligence agency, the director of national intelligence last year. if countermeasures were starting to be implemented, but as of january 20th of last year, president trump who doesn't believe in any of it, immediately knocked down all of these things. most states do not want to
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