spiritually and psychologically is little incidents of violence that have this ripple effect that you sort of traced in that piece. >> i think in the big picture there is this black suffering in america. we suffered every step along the way. it seems normal. people try to go about their everyday lives. industry to go to school, try to go to church, be with your families. but piece by piece it's taken from folks and the burden spread across the entire community of black death, and black pain. losing a mother, losing a son. you see that young man with tears running down his cheeks. when you traumatize you create other trauma. you respond by carrying weapons or self-medicating. or like in that household, like that family every corner there is hurt, depression and sadness. what do you do with that? >> here's what pisses me off about this, chris. we have the national blueprint to fix this problem. after 15 years of are continuous war and engagement, one thing the country has done right, is reinvesting ptsd research,