we all lied for each other. so -- feel guilty about that. >> how does that make you feel? >> she is gonna make me cry 'cause she's crying. >> but this mom knows her daughter's heart is in the right place. the rest just takes practice. >> first of all, you're here because i want you to realize how important it is for you to be strong, to be a strong person and really stand up for yourself and it's hard. not everybody does it. there's adults that don't do it. and i know it's hard, 'cause i've been there >> i mean, you know what you stand for. >> yeah. >> they said i don't really know why i cheated. i was raised better than that. i know that that's wrong but i did it anyway, that is an amazingly important experience for a kid to have and then be able to talk about it about their mom or their dad. >> he put these kids through pretty tough situations, if the tables were turned, how do you think the grownups would react? >> i think they would do the same thing. it is easy to look at kids and say that's kids doing this. this is something we often can