internationale. and this is the -- the stew, the media environment that trump and those passing this on to him live in. you know, i think -- look at the twitter account of donald trump's son, donald trump jr. >> oh, my -- >> look at that. i think you'll see, my guess is, a convergence between that and some of the more extreme things donald trump tweets. does it matter? even now, a year later, this is one of the raging debates among foreign policy types. i hear all the time the divide between the, don't pay attention to the tweets. pay attention to the policy. it's not that bad. the world hasn't blown up. versus the people who say, you want to know what this guy really thinks? we're deep into the world of right wing conspiracies about muslims. >> it's deeper. what he's doing, connecting the dots of extreme dots together