money, we're at record profits. that's not why companies aren't hiring. the companies have gotten productive and efficient. there was a wall street journal conference last week where gary cohn said who would hire more if you have the tax breaks. few ceos raised their hands. that's telling. >> that's an overly simplistic defense. give them a tax cut, they're hire more. but lower rate means fewer people are doing things to get their rates low. fewer loopholes means they're investing where demand is. forget about tax cut, hire people. lower simpler rate means more efficient economy. >> are you concerned about what it does to the debt? 1.5 to 2 at any time 2 2 .2 trillion. >> i've been consistent about never caring much about that. >> we're on a different side of
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