>> general kelly is running the staff and, it sounds like he's doing -- working along side with general mcmaster as sort of a de facto national security adviser? >> he is. and i think what was revealed by that news conference as well is that as much as he does not have an ideology, people say general kelly isn't really political, he does have certain values and an old school perspective, to say the least on american culture. that has bonded him with the president and also made him far less likely to leave this white house. he has -- he is not someone dieing to step outside of the gates and get out of there. but he actually believes the president in many respects is under siege and on foreign policy, he can be a steady hand. on the domestic front, he's there to be an ally. >> harold, again, this general
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