up and standing up and defending the iraqi government. right? keeping iraq intact country, governed by a national government which we supported. well, here's the headline in "the new york times" right now about the new job paul manafort took right around the time the fbi raided his house in the russia investigation. manafort working on kurdish referendum, opposed by the united states. this is a referendum for the kurds to break off northern iraq from the rest of iraq to break up the national iraqi government that referendum scheduled for monday. the united states and other nations oppose it strongly because it fear it will break apart and destabilize iraq. where incidentally the united states has more than 5,000 troops serving right now. joining us now is ken vogel, "the new york times" reporter out of the d.c. bureau. i'm sorry i'm talking about you so much tonight. i hope it hasn't made you feel weird. >> no. thrilled to be here with you. >> good. i want to make sure we spell out the time line.
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