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document production or other debates about what should be turned over to mueller. ty cobb, on the other hand, believes there's nothing to hide. so, the more you give to mueller, both documents and testimony, the more that he will have incentive to quickly, if not move on from the investigation, at least move on from the focus on the president. then there are the stylistic and personal issues, personal sort of trust issues. you see those manifest themselves in cobb suggesting that he thinks there may be a mcgahn spy in his midst, among stuffers he has working for him on document production. that is something that may stem from the differences over the actual legal issues and presidential privilege, but it complicates things further. that's the one that's getting the most attention. that's the one that prompted cobb getting sort of chewed out to some extent by john kelly, chief of staff. >> walk us through that chewing out, don mcgahn and kelly chewing out ty cobb.

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